Background information on the motion college education is worth it in the United States of America by Chairperson: Tjelcey Urbanek

The American debate over whether a college education is worth it began when the colonists arrived from Europe and founded “New College” (later renamed Harvard University) in 1636. With 20.2 million US college students in 2015 and average student debt at over $28,950 according to a report published by the Institute for College Access and Success., the debate continues today.

According to surveys conducted by PEW RESEARCH CENTER, A majority of Americans (57%) say the higher education system in the United States fails to provide students with good value for the money they and their families spend. An even larger majority—75%—says college is too expensive for most Americans to afford. At the same time, however, an overwhelming majority of college graduates—86%—say that college has been a good investment for them personally.

According to a report published by procon People who argue that college is worth it contend that college graduates have higher employment rates, bigger salaries, and more work benefits than high school graduates. They say college graduates also have better interpersonal skills, live longer, have healthier children, and have proven their ability to achieve a major milestone.

People who argue that college is not worth it contend that the debt from college loans is too high and delays graduates from saving for retirement, buying a house, or getting married. They say many successful people never graduated from college and that many jobs, especially trades jobs, do not require college degrees.

According to a new report by the Brookings Institution, 1 in 10 jobs in the United States is a STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) job that doesn’t require a bachelor’s degree. Those jobs, on average, pay about $53,000 per year. They can be held with a community college degree or a certificate from any number of specialty schools that teach computer skills.

Recent poll results obtained by the American Association of State Colleges and Universities (AASCU) shed some light on what Americans think about the value of a college education. The data shows the public is split on the question, with college graduates more than twice as likely to say, “Yes, it’s worth it,” than non-college graduates (62 to 30 percent, respectively).

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Argument by the 1st speaker for the motion college education is worth it: Manouk Bosschieter

During high school, students may begin to question the importance of a college education. They might find themselves asking, “Why is it important to go to college?” The answer is that more than ever, attending college provides opportunities for graduates which are not as widespread to those who have only received a higher education.

Higher Salaries

A college education may be one of the best investments of time and money for a person’s career. A report produced by the American Community Survey stated that those who held a bachelor’s degree were expected to earn a 40-year lifetime salary of about $2.4 million dollars on average. On average, those who held master’s degrees earned $2.8 million dollars. That’s $1 million less in retirement and $17,500 less in income every year. Before you don’t go to college, consider what you would do if you had an additional $1 million available when you retire. Would you buy a home? Create a fund for your children? Travel the world?

Better Life Skills

During classes, college students often develop the skills needed to make life decisions, ranging from buying a home to helping their children choose their own college. Other advantages of educational degrees may include improved self-discipline, study habits and cooperative behaviors that can be applied to career projects and tasks.

According to a survey from Arthur Chickerings who is an educational researcher in the field of student affairs, students ranked interpersonal skills as the most important skill used in their daily lives where Checkerings research shows that developing mature interpersonal relationships is one of the seven stages a student’s progress through in college. According to Vivek Wadhwa, who is a technology entrepreneur and scholar states that American children learn these social skills by going to college, they develop skills which make them innovative, and Americans are the most innovative people in the world because of the education system.

Shortage of jobs

The world right now has a shortage of engineers. Around the world, schools are ramping up to educate engineers as the demand for this type of skill set is especially high. Also, colleges offer career services, internships, job shadowing, job fairs, and volunteer opportunities to a wide variety of courses that may provide a career direction. According to Indiana University at Bloomington, over 80% of college student’s complete internships before graduation, giving them valuable employment experience before entering the job market. According to the US department of education, in Apr. 2013 the unemployment rate for college graduates over 25 years old was 3.6% compared to 7.5% for high school graduates.

(http://www.census.gov)

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Argument by the 2nd speaker against the motion college education is worth it in the United States of America: Anis laazari

Thank you Tjelcey for the introduction, I am Anis Laazari and I debate against the motion: College education is needed for success in life. You’ve read the success stories. Steve Jobs dropped out of college after six months. Mark Zuckerberg did the same his sophomore year. Richard Branson? He never even graduated high school (Bariso, 2015).

Argument 1: The financial problems are not worth it

         According to New York Times, 36 percent of Americans 18 to 31 years old were still living with their parents. That was the highest level that had ever been recorded (Rampell, 2013).  Overall, approximately 25 million U.S. adults are currently living at home with their parents according to Time Magazine (Corbett, 2012). According to Micheal Snyder one of the biggest reasons of these Americans independence on their parents is their high student loan debts (Snyder, 2014). Unfortunately, it is becoming more difficult for young people to become financially independent.  While students are in high school, they are told they need to go to college.  Then they are urged to take out whatever loans that they will need to pay for it, ensuring them that they will be able to get good jobs which will enable them to pay off those loans when they graduate (Snyder, 2014).

         Student debt factor into whether or not millennials purchase a home in their mid-20s to mid-30s (Rent.com, 2014).

         According to a Wells Fargo study, about one-third of millennials say they would have been better off working, instead of going to college and paying tuition (Touryalai, 2013). That’s no surprise because student loan debt now exceeds credit card debt in the U.S. which is $798 billion, according to Forbes (Touryalai, 2013).

         According to CNN, a college degree doesn’t pay off for years. In 2010, the typical college student had to work 8 years to break even on their bachelor’s degree investment, Goldman found. As the price of college education increases, it’s taking longer for the investment to pay off (Long, 2015).

Argument 2: College degrees are not always good for the economy

         According to See Thru Education, the rise in the amount of Americans with a college education has been accompanied by a sharp reduction in the rate of economic growth (Vedder, 2015). This shows that the more people with a college education, the lower the rate of economic growth.

Arguments 3: Alternatives to College

         A recent interview with Google’s senior vice president for People Operations discovered that 14% of people at Google have never gone to college. “Yet Google is one of the most successful, innovative and challenging companies in the whole world. With years of practice, they’ve developed enough skills that they don’t need a piece of paper to show that they can do the job. They’ve already proved it in the programs and applications they can create” (Wilezol, 2013).

         Apprenticeship method in which trainees learn a craft or trade by hands-on experience while working with a skilled worker, usually under a written agreement (BusinessDictionary, 2016).

According to bubble jobs:

– Learning on the job During an apprenticeship, you have got the opportunity to learn as you work. Rather than being in a classroom all week, you can get hands-on experience.

– You get paid to learn.

– You might get a job at the end of it If you have impressed your employer, you might get yourself a permanent job at the company. Imagine finishing with a qualification and a job straight away (Scarlett, 2016).

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Snyder, M. (2014, February 20). 29 Percent Of All U.S. Adults Under The Age Of 35 Are Living With Their Parents. DC Clothes Line. Opgehaald van http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/02/20/29-percent-u-s-adults-age-35-living-parents/

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Argument by the 2nd speaker For the motion college education is worth it  in the United States of America: Yoran de Vries

Greater benefits

Part of the reason employment benefits is so important is because they offer stability for your family, especially in the case of health care. They are called benefits, but in reality, they are a vital part of anyone’s salary.

Studies have shown that college graduates are more likely to receive greater employer-provided benefits than employees without a college degree. A 2008 report produced by College Board showed that roughly 70 percent of individuals with a college degree received health insurance from their employer, while less than 50 percent of employees with only a high school degree received the same benefit.

Across the board, college graduates are able to find jobs with better benefits.

Job stability

During an economic downturn, it’s not uncommon for employers to cut jobs. What positions do you think are first to get cut? Probably those at the bottom, positions requiring unskilled labor. During a recession, the unemployment rate among college graduates is substantially lower than the unemployment rate among employees with only a high school degree. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, having an associate degree suggests that you will be 30% less likely to be unemployed. By earning a bachelor’s or master’s, this same data suggests that you will be 56% less likely to be unemployed.

Paying alternatives

While it is true that a higher education may be one of the largest expenses you will ever face, the importance of a college education has become quite evident in terms of earning potential within today’s economy. While the importance of a college education is quite evident for many high school students, what is often not as clear is how they will pay for that education. Therefore there are all sorts of alternatives that can help or pay for your college. Local options, Federal options, Merit-based options and Corporate options are the four most common.
This all states that a college education is beneficial from many different viewpoints.

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Argument by the 2nd speaker against the motion college education is worth it in the United States of America: Genieva Mangoentaroeno

Argument 1: Unemployment

People think that finishing college will guarantee a job where you can make a lot of money, have a nice car and a nice home. This American dream is not realistic anymore. Those who graduate may find that their expected job is difficult to get. The unemployment rate for 20- to 24-year-olds with a bachelor’s degree or higher was 11% in 2015, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. In addition, 44% of recent graduates were underemployed in 2012 according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. They are working jobs that do not require a degree, driven by their need to start repaying college loans.

 

Argument 2: There are hundreds of careers which don’t require a degree

According to a study from the Brookings Institution, about half of all U.S. jobs that require science, technology, engineering, and math training are available to workers without a four-year college degree. Online courses, community school or computer schools can provide training at a much cheaper rate than college courses and you will still get your certificates.

 

Argument 3: Skills and experience is more important

A study from Robin Hubbard from University of Missouri-Columbia stated that employers value college reputation(5%) the least and value internships (23%), college work experience (21%), and volunteering (12%) the most

It’s all about proving to the hiring manager that you have the talent to solve their problems whether or not you have a college degree.

Research by Innovate+Educate shows that skills-based hiring is five times more predictive of success on the job than hiring by degree alone.

 

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Business English practice debate

Paternity leave for fathers needs to be expended in the Netherlands.

Tjelcey, chairperson:

• Full parental leave should be taken within a period of four weeks, starting from the day the child lives at the same address as the mother. However, it is possible for paternity leave to be taken from the date of birth.
• The future father is required to notify the employer before he takes this leave. This is a notification and not a request. The employer cannot refuse to grant the paternity leave

·       New mothers are entitled to 16 weeks paid maternity leave, Until now, Dutch fathers are legally entitled to 2 leave days after the birth of their child.

·       Both mothers and fathers who have worked for their current employer for at least a year are entitled to take a specified amount of non-paid parental leave (ouderschapsverlof) to care for each of their own children or adopted or foster children, within a six month period at any time during the first eight years of the child’s life.

·       Unpaid leave entitlement is 26 times the normal weekly working hours (6 months of leave for a full-time employee).

·       The partner is restricted to two days of fully paid paternity leave, though this can also be extended by three extra days (unpaid) up to a maximum five days of parental leave. By 2019, parental leave is expected to be expanded to five paid days.

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MANOUK: Thank you, Tjelcey for the introduction. I will some reasons why I am for this motion

Argument 1: First of all, The International Labor Organization Research suggests that paternity leave, men’s take-up of family responsibilities and child development are related. Fathers who get paternity leave, especially those taking two weeks or more immediately after childbirth, are more likely to be involved with their young children and are more able to develop the parenting skills. The ILO also states that paternity leave is a key factor of children doing better in life on almost every indicator of success. This is likely to have positive effects for gender equality in home, which is the basis of gender equality at work. Rutgers which is sexuality knowledge centre research shows that 68% of the Dutch fathers would like to have a longer paternity leave.

Argument 2: According to William Goode, who was a professor of sociology and former president of the American Sociological Association the hypothesis of stress holds that individuals with many roles experience more stress, conflict, and illnesses since the primary life role, for men supporting duties and for women caring duties, is so hard that additional roles risk lifetime health. This makes it almost impossible to work and care for a baby at the same time. Mr Olah who is a professor demography in the Stockholm university have researched that those couples where the father takes paternity leave are more stable than others.

Argument 3: According to a research from the Cardiff University School of Medicine, Fathers perceive that, while family policies might in theory be available to parents. Lack of uptake by other men and the absence of a supportive workplace result in these policies being used only by women. The Database of ILO shows that more countries in Europe have a paternity leave of 11 until 15 days. The European Commission wants The European Union to be more social. Now inhabitants are moving countries and according to the European commission it is because Europe’s social side is not developed enough. According to Commissioner Thyssen of social issues, businesses don’t want to lose talented females and that it is good for our country to keep collecting taxes from parents who keep their job.

-paternity leave develops better parenting skills

– paternity leave causes children to be more successful

– positive effects on gender equality

– it reduces stress and conflicts

– reduces divorce rate

– makes Europe more social

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Peeperkorn, M. (2017). Europa maakt vuist voor vaders: minimaal tien dagen verlof na geboorte kind. Retrieved from http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/europa-maakt-vuist-voor-vaders-minimaal-tien-dagen-verlof-na-geboorte-kind~a4490769/

  

Anis:
Thank you Tjelcey for introducing me. I will explain why it is a bad idea to expand paternity leave for men in the Netherlands.

  1.       For paternity leave there are a lot of alternatives, paid and non-paid. A birth is not unexpected, as a parent you can see this coming, a choice of leave is therefore good to make. According to the president of Midden en kleinbedrijf Nederland, a lot of fathers do not want to be home after the birth of their child. They take days off once the kraamhulp left. Expanding paternity leave is a solution for a problem that is not there. A paternity leave is custom work and it has to be like that, it should be between the employee and the boss (Mak, 18).
  2.       According to Newstatesmen the role of fatherhood is romanticised. Fathers’ rights don’t include the right to be paid less, the right to be talked over or the right to perform all of those childcare-related tasks that don’t involve any immediate contact with your child. We’re talking about the right to be like the dad, this does not include any expenditure of the paternity leave (Glosswitch, 2015).
  3.       According to Rosemarie Bisseling, a human resource director at Cofely Nederland, a paternity leave is something totally different from the maternity leave. There is no physical reason for a father to not be able to work (Mak, 18).

Sub arguments for open discussion:

  1.       According to Rosemarie Bisseling, the current paternity leave is excellent, it is the choice of the father to fulfill the social-emotional aspects around paternity. New fathers that want more days off usually get those days from their boss (Mak, 18).
  2.       Women suffer from stress, exhaustion, and sleep disturbances after giving birth, men do not experience this (Childbirth Connection, 2013).

GENIEVA:
Father’s will be more productive at work when he gets more time off.

Now a day, it is hard for new fathers to balance their work and personal life, because having a new baby will not lead to a lot of sleep. Fathers go to work exhausted and after work, he gets home and still need to help in the house. This will go one each day and will eventually lead to less motivation and being less productive at work. Peter Thomson, director of the Future Work Forum at Henley Management College says that if new fathers get more time to get involved with the care of their children, they will be more motivated and more productive when they start working again.

It is better for families if the father is more involved after the birth of newborn.

The first period after the birth of a newborn can have a big impact on the parent’s life. According to David Borman, obstetrician teacher at Utrecht Medical Centre, the first period is where you will learn the most things and the dad support is very necessary during this period.

Also, according to the Centers for Disease Control in the US, 11 to 20% of women who give birth each year have postpartum depression. This depression is caused by the fact that giving birth can be too overwhelming for new mothers and social factors can also play a role. Not having the dad around in this new situation to communicate with can be a cause of this depression. This depression will lead to tiredness, not having an appetite, slow thinking, negative self-image. This can have a negative impact on the care of the baby. That is why it is so important for new father to be involved at home in the first period, so mothers can count on help.

Another thing is that, in every other civilized Western country fathers get more time with the newborn babies.

Holland is the only country in Europe who gives two days off, unpaid, for new fathers. New fathers in Sweden for example have the right to get 90 days off and they are getting paid within that period. In Germany fathers have the right to get 10 months off and getting 67% of their salary paid out within that period.

So, There is no room for new parents in the Netherland to decide how to arrange their time with their newborn baby. All parents are different and by not letting new parents decide how they want to shape their family life, the way new parents are now living is just a very old-fashioned. Someone else is now arranging the time of father’s and their role distribution in a family. With other words: the dad has to work and the mother must stay at home to take care of the children, which is just medieval and ridiculous for this era.

To summarize it; Paternity leave should be extended because; fathers will be more productive at work when gets more time off, it is better for new families if the father is more involved after the birth of a new baby, and lastly in every other civilized Western country fathers get more time off

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Yoran:
Argument 1: Lets talk about the costs of the extension. The Centraal Plan Bureau calculated the plan of the expansion to 12 weeks. They assumed, based on the current use of paternity leave in the Netherlands and Sweden, that 70 percent of the fathers will make use of the arrangement. They also expect that fathers will not choose for the full 12 weeks. They assume 60 percent of the maximum period of twelve weeks. This means that the CPB costs will be around 200 million euros.

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Argument 2: According to social affairs correspondent Sarah Womack’s new study, many men say that spending time at home with their baby is a career killer. In England fathers get two weeks of paternity leave which one in four men do not even take refering to their career. Only half of those surveyed accepted that by returning to work soon after the birth, they took longer to bond with their baby.

Correspondent, S. W. (2005, November 24). Paternity leave would be a career killer and too costly, say fathers. Retrieved May 11, 2017, from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1503790/Paternity-leave-would-be-a-career-killer-and-too-costly-say-fathers.html

Argument 3: Full maternity care is the most preferred form of maternity care. The maternity care provider then cares for the mother, the baby and the rest of the family for about eight days, eight hours a day. You will then receive information and advice and part of the household will also be taken care of by the maternity care provider. This means that a father is not necessarily needed in the process of taking care of the mother or child after labor.

 

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